Saturday, September 4, 2010

Fr. Robert Barron on Stephen Hawking's recent claims about God

Fr. Robert Barron writes:
So another prominent British academic has weighed in on the God question. Stephen Hawking, probably the best-known scientist in the world, has said, in a book to be published a week before the Pope’s visit to Britain, that the universe required no Creator. (I’m sure, of course, that there was no “intelligent design” behind that choice of publication date!). I confess that something in me tightens whenever I hear a scientist pontificating on issues that belong to the arena of philosophy or metaphysics. I will gladly listen to Stephen Hawking when he holds forth on matters of theoretical physics, but he’s as qualified to talk about philosophical and religious issues as any college freshman. There is a qualitative difference between the sciences, which speak of objects, forces, and phenomena within the observable universe, and philosophy or religion which speak of ultimate origins and final purposes. Science, as such, simply cannot adjudicate questions that lie outside of its proper purview—and this is precisely why scientists tend to make lots of silly statements when they attempt to philosophize. 
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The Sojourner said...

(Unapprove this comment and you will be branded as biased and dishonest)

Since your article did not really imply any contradiction to the theories made by the Scientist, I do not have to explain why Hawking's theory makes more sense than religious philosophy and guesswork.

But you did mention a separation of science and religion (you are also boldly, and arrogantly claiming that religion has an even more powerful and precise knowledge... which you call 'ultimate origins' and 'final purposes').

I'm about to write a Blog, so I will make my response short. Religion has no solid ground on factual basis... Your basis, the bible? Has full of stories and hearsays, Miracles that are only as true as stories of the Valhalla, the Iliad, and Islam (and I hope you get my ironical comparison that I meant was Catholicism/Christianity is nothing but an extension of the Jewish Book of Fairy tales).

What did religion do? Tell stories, discriminate people, and spread intolerance towards other ethnicities and gender.

Science is not bold and arrogant, and we have a reason not to be. Every law and theories are governed by step by step system we call the Scientific method. Unless a claim or a problem does not pass all through the steps, it cannot be claimed as a fact or real.

And what are the benefits of Science? Technology. That computer you're using to read this now is a product of what we do. We "literally" save lives instead of perpetually wishing it.

Francis J. Beckwith said...

A note to the Sojourner:

I didn't write "the article" It was authored by Fr. Robert Barron. I am quoting from it.

Also, you may want to employ the resources of reason rather than blackmail in making a case for the publication of your rant.

Comments like this--"(Unapprove this comment and you will be branded as biased and dishonest)"-- come across as the bizarre paranoid utterances of immature nerds who have not moved out of their parents' basement.

Jae said...

@ Sojourner you said, "What did religion do? Tell stories, discriminate people, and spread intolerance towards other ethnicities and gender."

REALLY? what planet are you from?

The charities and donations we give to the poor, destitute, homeless, defending life at conception, orphanages, and abandoned people nobody seem to want, education, world's largest provider of Hospitals, Health Care Centers, Rehabilitation, invented the University when all Europe was under the barbarians and thousands more charity causes ARE SECOND TO NONE. SECOND TO NONE. Go google that!

A book titled, "American Charities. A Study in Philanthropy and Economics" By Amos Griswold Warner, University of Chicago. Page 316 states:

"The religious orders of the Roman Catholic Church are still unequalled in the amount of this kind of contribution to the care of the poor."

Feast your eyes to the work we do to our fellow humans:

Jae said...

The Catholic Church has a non-profit hospital system of 637 hospitals, which account for hospital treatment of 1 out of every 5 people - not just Catholics - in the United States today.

In education, Catholic Church educates 2.6 million students everyday at the cost to that Church of 10 billion dollars, and a savings on the other hand to the American taxpayer of 18 billion dollars. The graduates go on to graduate studies at the rate of 92%.

The Church has 230 colleges and universities in the U.S. with an enrollment of 700,000 students.

Since you look like a very scientific man then I must say you're a graduate of a good University - which is a product of a religious mind you abhor.

I was reminded of the verse in the Bible in Matt 7:5, "First remove the beam from your own eye. Then you will see clearly to remove the piece of sawdust from another believer's eye"

Very True. Peace